Advice about selling a car, recieving payment via paypal.

[hasey]

I'm selling my car (not on ebay) and have had someone offering to buy via paypal and send someone for collection. I know all about these scams where buyers say I'll pay with a bankers draft and add shipping fees and the seller has to sort it out with the shippers. I've always disregarded these and said cash on collection only but this one says he'll pay in full via paypal and arrange for someone to collect. I just want to know where I stand on the security of the payment. Do I have to wait any particular time for it to clear? Can he cancel payment once cleared or request a refund?

You hear so many scams going on I just want to be sure, I'm already dubious due to the fact he's saying he'll send someone else to collect. Or am I just best sticking to my guns and demanding cash on collection? Please help.

[Engineer]

Just thought I would add to this copy and paste;  Thank all of you for posting, and saving me from getting robbed!

Hi there,

Thank you for getting back to me.Can you assure me that  is in good state and that i will not be disappointed with it?I'm ready to pay your asking  price and to be honest, i want to buy this for my brother as his gift. I am a marine engineer that works on the sea at the moment. phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it so my only quickest payment option is PayPal as i can send money via PayPal anytime.Since I'm requesting this transaction to be done via PayPal, i will be responsible for all the pay pal fee/charges on this transaction and if you don't have an account with paypal, it is pretty easy, safe and secured to open one. Just log on to www.paypal.com. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? I have a mover that will come for it once payment clears . i will like to see more pics i look forward to hear back from you soon.

Below are the details needed

Your PayPal e-Mail Address :

Full name:

Firm Price:

Cell Phone number

Thank You

[QDMDawe]

I had this response today

Hi thanks for reply, i am a marine engineer, i am at sea right now. I
am buying this for my son as a surprise gift. I can  only pay through
paypal at the moment as i dont have access to my bank account online(i
dont have internet banking with it), but i have it attached to my
paypal account, and this is why i insisted on using paypal to pay,all
i will need is your paypal email address to make the payment, and if
you dont have a paypal account yet, you can set one  it cant take you
less than 3mins to do that, i will be expecting your paypal email so l
can pay.  I have a pick up agent that will come for the pick up after
payment has been sorted,  l will be waiting for your reply asap..

Thank "filp" for this thread!!!!

Any way for reporting these buggers?!

[Zee705]

Got this one tonight.  Look familiar?

"Your price is Okay and i can offer you a little bit more like $15,500.00, am offering you more than your asking price due to other potential buyers i hope my offer is Acceptable..?
As for the payment..i will be paying you via the fastest and secure way to pay online (PayPal).

I have a private courier agent that will come for the pick up after the payment have been made ... So no shipping included.. My private courier agent will come

for the pick up and sign all necessary documents on my behalf after the payment have been made, as they will also be coming with all the information needed, my

details and transferring the name of ownership to me will be done by the pick up agent so you don't have to worry about that...

You can now send me your PayPal email so i can pay in right away and also include your address in your reply. If you don't have a paypal account, you can easily

set up one...log on to www.paypal.com and sign up. its very easy.I await your reply Asap."

and after my request for a phone call.

"I would have loved to talk to you on phone but i am a petroleum engineer I work mainly offshore, our phone is down on the rig right now due to bad  weather, we can only communicate  with our base for now. So every thing  will be provided after the Payment has been made by me.... Kindly get back to me asap cos i dont want to loose it..."

and then I got another email from a different person 10 minutes later.

"

Hi thanks for mailing back,am ok with the price and the condition,am
buying it for my vacation,because i'll be coming soon from our rig as
am a petroleum project engineer on a rig offshore,i won't be able to
come for the inspection due to the nature of my work,i would have love
to call in person but we have call restriction due to bad weather
condition our satellite server has been down.
i will be paying you through PayPal,please get back to me with your
PayPal details so i can proceed with the payment and contact the
courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in my place.
Await your reply "

and my response:

Wow, you’re the second petroleum engineer to message me tonight regarding my car.  You guys must be really crowded out there on that rig!

How’s about I just give you my Social Insurance # and banking information instead?

Go away.

[Bilmac]

These are just 2 of the 6 replies i have had to my advert for my mobile home.I've told all of them that i prefer cash on collection

my shipping agent will be coming to pick it up, I'll like you to send me your address so that my shipping agent can figure it out and come for the pick up and other necessary things....more so,send me your PayPal details(PayPal email) so i can make the payment. Thanks    Await your response.    Mary

All that is required for me to have your money sent is just for you to get back to me with the email address and name that you linked with your paypal account. And the shipping company will be available to process/pick up the tittle during pick-up and after you must have received your money cash in hand. I can only feel secured sending my funds via paypal due to there various security measures at ensuring safe and secured transaction between buyer/seller. However, if you feel otherwise, I totally understand.
Regards

[horansky]

i got something simillar..

Hello Friend,

Thanks for your response,Am ok with your price and I need you to understand that i am willing and ready to purchase it right away, put it off the AD site, consider me as your favorite buyer, and Please note that i live in England but right now am in Astor on the sea and due to my work as a marine engineer,I will not be able to come to view the merchandise or come for the pick up but i have a  shipper/mover who handles my shipping arrangement anywhere in the world and i will make all transportation preparations for the it to be transported to my home in England. If possible can you send me some recent picture?,My shipper will be coming for the pickup, after you have received payment, which would be through PayPal,So do you have a PayPal account for the payment?.

Regards...

so you guys say theres no point to make a transactions with them ?

Thanks

[kernowlass]

NO don't respond.

Be VERY careful selling cars/large items if the buyer is keen to use paypal and states they are working abroad or sending to a friend etc and need a shipping agent to pick it up..

You then get a FAKE paypal email saying you have been paid extra so you can pay the shipping agent for them via western union and the payment is released to you after you have done that.

It is a scam to get that western union payment, they don't want your car and the shipping agent is just a scam to get that payment.

They are nearly always in Nigeria and can't even own a paypal account.

[Romulao]

GUYS BECAREFUL THIS IS A SCAM! Look at the email I just received....

From: tereza <removed> <removed>

I am still very much interested in your advert, I'll like you to get back to me it's condition and your final asking price. I will be requesting this transaction to be done via PayPal,so the PayPal charges is on me. Kindly send me your PayPal email address or send me a money request so that i can proceed with the payment asap as am very busy with my United Nation Missionary project and do not have much time around me. 

Regards,...tereza

There are a lot of posts in the internet alerting people not to sell their cars through here...pay attention!!!

[jhandy1]

Hi All.

I got a very similiar email today for my car i was selling on kijiji. I first recieved a text saying to respond to his email. Thank god i looked this up just saved myself from getting scammed. Thanks all, the email i got is below::

"Thanks for your responds i will like to know the present condition of it cos due to the nature of my job i wont be able to come for the inspection cos am a very busy person. I work long hours every day,have gone through your advert and am highly satisfy with it.Are you the first owner :

I will like to know if this vehicle has been involved in any accident before :

What is your reason for selling it? Also i will like to have the bottom price" 

"Thanks for your mail, your price is ok,$5,000.Based on the issue of Payment i will like to Pay you through fast and reliable payment transaction which is PAYPAL,to protect both of us, kindly get back to me with your PAYPAL account so that i can proceed on the payment. An if you dont have kindly log on to www.paypal.com to set it up and ensure it is yahoo if you are just doing so cos am also using yahoo paypal account i will just transfer it directly into your account to make it faster and easier,but if you have already have it there is no problem get back to me with the email you used for the registration, so that i can proceed on the payment... 

I have a private courier agent that will come for the pick up after the payment have been made by me, so he will do all the necessary things on my behalf when he comes for the pick up, i want you to be honest with sincerity with this transaction, if there is any thing else to do kindly let him know before he left your place.I look forward for your reply.

Ryland"

[mikie020]

BEWARE! I have just received this email. I said that I wasn't happy about the fact she hadn't seen the car and could she come first thing in the morning and if she was happy I would take her to the bank. NO REPLY. What a suprise! I will be reporting to this to Autotrader.

[jarethdisley]

I have had a very similar email from <removed> which I have replied to.

Did anything else come from this? Did you receive any further emails?