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Hi,
Like a lot of people on this forum, I have been the victim of the whole order then get a different cheaper item. I opened a dispute with the company because I never received the item. We went back and forth for 20 days and then paypal stated I had to escalate my claim or it would be closed. I did so. The item then came in the mail and was not even what I ordered. I let paypal know, and included pictures. Paypal stated I must return the item even though I was sent the wrong one. That would be fine except the cost to send this back to China is huge and currently the post office says they cant accept packages to China because of the virus. I feel the company should have to pay return postage since it was their mistake, or resend the correct item. Now that paypal has stated I must return the item, I can no longer write anything on my claim, only the return tracking number. My text messages to paypal go unanswered. This company from China is one of many doing this while bait and switch thing. But from what I can see, paypal does NOT protect the customer, and is actually encouraging companies to continue this fraudulent practice by letting their practices continue. I mean I was shocked how many people have left posts here and yet Paypal ignores what is happening. In a previous post, someone had given some links to places we can lodge a complaint. Maybe the FTC? Can someone send me that link again please? and any other place where I can lodge a complaint?
thanks
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Hi everyone,
Its me again. not sure where it post this, but I wanted to let you know that paypal DID refund my money after some persistance. I found that once paypal requested that the item be returned, I could no longer reply back to paypal about the situation. so I talked to a paypal virtual agent instead. I am going to try and paste the conversation below in case it might help others in the same situation.
PayPal Virtual Agent
1:47 AM
Hi! I'm your PayPal Assistant. I can help with common questions like "what's the status of my dispute" or "I want a refund".
If I can't help, I'll transfer your message to an agent.
Amy <removed>
1:47 AM
please transfer me to an agent
PayPal Virtual Agent
1:47 AM
All our agents are currently offline.
I can transfer this conversation to them and they will respond when they are back in the office.
Our customer service staffing is limited due to the coronavirus (covid-19) crisis. We've put together some useful information in the Help Center to quickly resolve your issue. I'll stay here while you take a look.
After I transfer the conversation, you can close the window and come back to it when it’s convenient for you. When we respond, we’ll send you a notification with a link to the Message Center where you can reply.
Would you like to transfer this conversation to an agent?
Amy <removed>
1:47 AM
Yes
PayPal Virtual Agent
1:47 AM
Please send us a detailed message below and an agent will respond as soon as possible. If you have a related transaction ID, date, and amount, please include it here.
Amy <removed>
1:52 AM
I started a case with the resolution center. I have been waiting and waiting for an item to arrive that I ordered. It was shipped from China. It finally arrived but the company sent the wrong item. I sent pictures as proof. The company now says that they will issue a refund once I return the item. It costs over $40 to return this item to China and I do not feel that I should have to pay return shipping fees since they sent the wrong item. They can either pay the return shipping costs since it was their error or they can resend the correct item. There is no place for me to respond to them on the resolution center, only a place to send the shipping information. I need to speak with an agent please. I feel this is fraud on the companys part and paypal is suppossed to protect customers. This company sent the wrong item but I have to pay to return? please contact me.
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Amy <removed>
2:34 PM
They sent me the wrong item. If you check the community board messages, you will see they do this often. sending the wrong items and then only offering a refund if the wrong item gets returned which they know often costs a huge amount of money. where is the buyer protection? They sent me the wrong item. I feel they should have to resend the correct one. This was THEIR mistake.
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I've currently got a dispute open with this exact seller for the exact same reason.
Seller is actively abusing pay-pal's buyer protection policy as far as I can tell.
Ordered item does not arrive. Seller sends 50 cent unrelated garbage item instead.
Conversed with seller directly at first, seller wants me to send "incorrect" item back which is obviously astronmically expensive to China. (2x total value of claim for me)
Alternatively offers a 50% refund without sending item back, this probably prevents a lot of people from filing complaints with paypal to begin with.
It's a **bleep** offer though because the item that was sent is litterally pennies and AFAIK they don't have any real shipping costs either.
By all accounts Pay-Pal also wants you to to send the incorrect item back eventually, I have yet to get there.
Obviously this is never in any way financially viable.
Seller wins.
And if you take their rediculous 50% offer (50% of the item, mind, this doesn't include "shipping cost" you paid) they won't even have a score on their PP account either.
This has been going on for a long time now if my Google results are anything to go by, it's impossible Pay Pal is not aware of this.
I'm "only" 25 dollars down the hatch here so my interest isn't even really getting my money back at this point, I just want Pay-Pal to act because this incidident will actively stop me buying anything with paypal ever again as it breaks the whole basis I use them for.
A creditcard payment I could've easily disputed myself here.
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I'm feeling the same.
Always thought that Paypal was the ultimate 'Buyer protection' way to pay for anything online.
We were ripped off with online fraudulent festival tickets a few years ago....paid with credit card.
Repaid at the gate, and once we got back home, I went to the bank with the fraud emails for tickets, repaid tickets and explained to the customer service rep....She took all the details and BANG....a week or so later, the initial payment was returned to the account.
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Exactly, now day, it seems 99% seller from China offer those kind of business practice in this US land. Everyone should aware of these cases. I do same as other stop to use Paypal with stranged sellers accept ebay and US eCommerce company/sellers . I encourage everyone should report, step up and speak up to send warning to US consumers to prevent to be take advantage by those kind of business. Thank you to sending a warning to me.

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