Scammed through Friends & Family

[jforbes15]

recently scammed due to my own mistakes of not doing much research, he told me to send through friends and family. is there anything at all i could do to get my money back? 

[kkf_hu]

you guys advocating for paypal introducing a safer family and friends policy are forgetting, hat that would be introducing the possibility for the buyer the scam the seller. cause you know, you pay the product with F&F and then when it arrives, you open a dispute and lie about not getting anything, or getting an empty box. in fact i have no idea how paypal is coping with such cases even if the transaction was G&S.

i mean i could pay G&S and ask for money back lying about nothing being in the box or just some filler to make the weight look realistic.

bottom line is, i know cross-border commissions are a **bleep**, cause for example if you buy something in the US from a European seller with G&S, you will find your seller asking for an extra 5,4%. now that is a huuuuge toll on a 500USD purchase, the shipping of which is already costing you an arm and a leg. but at the end of the day, you gotta ask yourself is zero safety worth it? cause paypal aint never gonna be playing along with you trying to cut corners and deprive them from their commission. what were you guys thinking?

[ScammersTool]

After reading this topic, I came to the conclusion that PayPal is the best tool for scammers

If you report a PayPal account being used by a scammer, PayPal does nothing. So you can still scam and trive. I might even consider it 

Scammers please keep using PayPal 

Everyone else #delete PayPal

Happy Days!

[FrankP1]

I have the best solution to this problem - do not use PayPal, they support fraudsters. Zelle, on the other hand, is refunding people who have been scammed. https://www.pymnts.com/news/banking/2023/zelle-network-banks-begin-reimbursing-imposter-scam-victims...

[G1773y]

I had a Facebook seller leaning on me to use f&f I said I'd pay as g&s and pay extra to cover the fees he got funny and left the chat. After giving me his PayPal account email. Is there any way I can report the email to PayPal as he is deliberately bypassing their fees and possibly scamming people. I didn't pay him anything btw.

[kernowlass]

@G1773y 

Good for you, if more folks used some common sense and realised friends/family meant exactly that they would not get scammed either.

You can report but unfortunately if they are not a web site owner advertising only using the friends/family option then its unlikely anything will be done.

HOWEVER paypal do check on a random basis f/f payments and if they see a seller is using that option to sell then they get a permanent ban.

[G1773y]

Thanks where can I report this? Only option I can find is if I completed the transaction.

[ALEXANDRBOG]

Why hasn't PayPal introduced an option for users to report issues and submit evidence directly? It's quite concerning that PayPal is being exploited for criminal activities. The lack of such a feature could significantly tarnish its reputation. If users had the ability to report suspicious transactions and provide proof, it would enhance the platform's security and trustworthiness. The absence of this crucial functionality might lead people to consider alternatives, as they seek platforms that offer better protection and responsiveness to fraudulent activities. It's imperative for PayPal to address this gap swiftly to maintain user confidence and prevent a potential shift towards competitors. 

[ALEXANDRBOG]

Hello everyone, I too have fallen victim to scams involving 'family and friend' transfers. While I understand that these types of transactions lack buyer protection, it's disheartening to see PayPal being misused by scammers. I propose that PayPal introduces an added feature in their issue reporting section. This would include an option such as 'Report a scam for this transaction.' My intention isn't to get a refund, but rather to alert PayPal about potential fraudulent activities associated with a specific account. If implemented, PayPal could display a warning for future transactions, like 'Caution: This account has been flagged for suspicious activity.' This would serve as a critical reminder for users to reconsider and verify before proceeding with their transaction.

[Loony_Phoenix]

I still think Pay Pal are avoiding the issue regarding Scams conducted under ‘Friends and Family’…. When you are completing the ‘Transaction’ you are assuming that they are friends ( or family) .. but that’s the whole point of scamming… Pay Pal need to take responsibility.

[ALEXANDRBOG]

I am just wondering if there is a platform where we can share proposals for a PayPal on how to improve their security level with a voting system. We can propose for them my recent proposal: " I propose that PayPal introduces an added feature in their issue reporting section. This would include an option such as 'Report a scam for this transaction.' My intention isn't to get a refund but rather to alert PayPal about potential fraudulent activities associated with a specific account. If implemented, PayPal could display a warning for future transactions, like 'Caution: This account has been flagged for suspicious activity.' This would serve as a critical reminder for users to reconsider and verify before proceeding with their transaction." 

And let their clients vote. I think only this can change the situation with scammers.

Guys, please share your thoughts. Have a nice day, everyone!